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Interview: Ask Bruce Perens What You Will

samzenpus posted about 7 months ago | from the go-ahead-and-ask dept.

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Bruce Perens is a computer programmer and one of the most important advocates for the open source community. He co-founded the Open Source Initiative with ESR and has worked towards reforms of national and international technology policies. He is an amateur radio enthusiast, and has pushed for open radio communication standards. He is also our interview guest today. As usual, ask as many questions as you'd like, but please, one per post.

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Unbalanced (5, Funny)

Hentai (165906) | about 7 months ago | (#46650187)

Can you please convince ESR to change his name to Eric CloseParens? It's been bugging me for like, decades.

Er...what's left in "open source" to talk about? (4, Interesting)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about 7 months ago | (#46650247)

Having lived through the entire lifecycle of "open source," it seems like its place in development communities and businesses is well-established, with a mix of different licensing and deployment models for whatever anyone wants to do.

So...is there really anything interesting left in "open source" to talk about? (Software patents, maybe, but even that's picked up some case law.)

Re:Er...what's left in "open source" to talk about (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46650753)

Open source to me is more like a practice of engineering. It makes a lot of sense.

Also it's driven down ridiculous pricing in commercial alternatives.

I think you might mean "free" software. I guess when I load my OS and all the hardware works I am not too bothered about the ethical implications of free software philosophy which to me seems like applied Marxism in compsci.

Re:Er...what's left in "open source" to talk about (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46653123)

If only FOSS supported CAPITALISM.

Question (3, Interesting)

u38cg (607297) | about 7 months ago | (#46650273)

What do you think of Slashdot Beta?

Re:Question (3, Informative)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | about 7 months ago | (#46650477)

Given that Bruce restarted Technocrat.net in response to the Great Slashdot Beta Uprising, this question is certainly not offtopic.

Re:Question (1)

smoothnorman (1670542) | about 7 months ago | (#46651233)

I'd like to know if there's any real hope for technocrat.net ..? it re-started, i've followed it fairly frequently, and now it already seems rather moribund

Re:Question (1)

bistromath007 (1253428) | about 7 months ago | (#46651473)

No, there isn't. I wish there was, but the problem is that all the stories that this community really cares about are here and not on technocrat. The only way technocrat could ever hope to succeed is if somebody were absolutely shameless about copypasting stories they saw here so we could talk about them there instead. Since much of slashdot's content is links to other websites anyway, there's not really much reason that can't happen, but nobody's doing it, and I can't get hold of Peren* to ask about his policy on the matter, so technocrat is useless.

*That's another big problem, incidentally. Because this is like the five millionth time he's built it and they didn't come, the site is barebones as hell, and email addresses at it seem to bounce. Either that or it automatically bounces everything sent from a gmail account. I hear some people do that because gmail is being used for spam. But I'm not going to hunt down a less convenient email service just so I can ask him a question about his website that's dying, even if I'd really rather go there than slashdot. :/

Re:Question (1)

turgid (580780) | about 7 months ago | (#46652867)

No, there isn't. I wish there was, but the problem is that all the stories that this community really cares about are here and not on technocrat.

The quality of stories here has been in steady decline for 10 years and the standard of the associated discussions is pretty abysmal. Occasionally there's something good but it's 80% filler and non-stories.

You can't have a decent discussion about anything because it's all anti-FOSS zealots, ignorant newbies and pro-MS "sensible" people these days. Gone are they days when CPU architecture and OS kernel design were discussed.

Re:Question (1)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | about 7 months ago | (#46652021)

Soylent News [soylentnews.org] is probably a more realistic alternative to Slashdot than technocrat.net. One of the major problems with technocrat.net is that Bruce has already killed it a couple times in the past when he lost interest -- so why would people move there now?

Also, although Soylent News is using old Slashcode, it's still much more functional than the technocrat software.

Re:Question (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | about 7 months ago | (#46652171)

Better yet, people should be moving to:

https://pipedot.org/ [pipedot.org]

Modern features like UTF-8. Fast clean interface. Its what beta should have been. Keeps everything good, throws out the bad. Plus, better name than solyant. Less drama.

Better still? (1)

kevlar_rat (995996) | about 7 months ago | (#46652605)

Or better* http://squte.com/ [squte.com] which also forwards posts to Usenet - so there is a permanent archive that isn't locked in to any one site and a potential community of the millions of Usenetters.
* for sufficiently small values of better

He's still around? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46650291)

Only on Slashdot, I guess. Everyone else has moved on...

Re:He's still around? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46650925)

I'm shocked at how people like him can throw his life away on something as stupid and trivial as being a zealot for a specific type of computer software. Talk about petty.

systemd (3, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | about 7 months ago | (#46650301)

systemd - why?

Re:systemd (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46651603)

Because it's better. Seriously.

Re:systemd (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46651617)

Yeah, it's better at turning Linux into Windows.

Re:systemd (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46657429)

Because Microsoft deserves a break. They can't keep up, and it's not nice to just keep leaping ahead and make them look silly.

Whatever happened to codec2? (1)

AndroSyn (89960) | about 7 months ago | (#46650303)

I saw you giving out flyers regarding codec2(a free audio codec intended for amateur radio purposes) at the Dayton Hamvention a few years ago. Are you still involved with the codec2 project? Does it still exist or did it die?

Re:Whatever happened to codec2? (1)

Argilo (602972) | about 7 months ago | (#46651145)

Bruce talks about the current state of codec2 in episode 139 of Ham Radio Now [arvideonews.com] . You may also want to look at FreeDV [freedv.org] , which you can use today to experiment with codec2 on the air.

Re:Whatever happened to codec2? (1)

AndroSyn (89960) | about 7 months ago | (#46651461)

Thanks! I've been a little bit out of the loop lately on radio stuff sadly.

How does it feel to fight a losing battle? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46650317)

The garden is becoming closed, because the people with money want more money. Open source is nice until there's lots of money to be made, then it goes away.

Re:How does it feel to fight a losing battle? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46652327)

I'd also like to know how he feels. Unwinnable.

Re:How does it feel to fight a losing battle? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46657487)

With Android and Steam both being Linux, I'd say that Linux is at least undermining the 100% closed systems. The goal is obviously to open source everything (or free software it, but that is harder to verbify) but in the mean time I'm perfectly happy watching them grasping for straws.

That transition would go faster if there was an easy way to donate money without angering the suits. Suits have no trouble paying tons of money for WIndows licenses whenever a new system is setup, but they would never donate a single dollar to an open source project that has saved them thousands. Not even terms like "enterprise support" or "bugfixes" are that effective.

When the Republicans... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46650349)

demanded you back-off of privacy issues, why did you? We used to trust and respect you, but now that you're a puppet for the CONservatives, you threw all of that away.

Newton (2, Interesting)

Major Blud (789630) | about 7 months ago | (#46650509)

After the Newton School shooting you posted on Slashdot that you would be willing to give up your second amendment right to prevent something like that from happening again. What other rights would you be willing to give up?

Re:Newton (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46650643)

You think the 2nd amendment actually keeps you safe and free?

That's cute; you just keep believing that.

Re:Newton (2, Insightful)

Major Blud (789630) | about 7 months ago | (#46650689)

You think the government actually keeps you safe and free?

That's cute; you just keep believing that.

Re:Newton (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46650857)

Not with people like you voting.

Re:Newtown (2, Insightful)

Lord Kano (13027) | about 7 months ago | (#46650783)

What makes him think that he has the right to decide that for me?

LK

Re:Newtown (1, Troll)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 7 months ago | (#46651205)

Probably the fact that unlike many personal rights, this particular right granted by the second amendment is actually not-so-personal: it affects lives of all people besides the person in question to a much larger extent than, say, the right to say whatever you want. People can choose not to listen, but they can't avoid the bullets.

Re:Newtown (1, Insightful)

Major Blud (789630) | about 7 months ago | (#46651469)

My owning a firearm does not affect you in any way whatsoever. I've never fired it at anyone and I never plan on it either. If you're that worried about the your' safety and that of others around you, there are far more deadlier things that can be outlawed (cars, alcohol, high-fructose corn syrup, etc).

I wish I never posed the original question, I'm getting modded into oblivion :-)

if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46651811)

My problem with your owning a firearm is that you are not shooting CrAzY PeOpLe before they shoot me. With guns. So all your gun-ho, "an armed society is a polite society" bullshit is proven incorrect.
Let me guess, your response will be we need more people with guns. So when one of the inevitably has a bad day, they can more directly gain access to a deadly weapon with irreversible effects.

When will you sons of the earth out in the sticks finally admit this is a city-mouse vs country-mouse problem and stop trying to force your archaic views of society on us civilized people?!

Re:if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fe (1, Insightful)

Major Blud (789630) | about 7 months ago | (#46651899)

Well that escalated quickly. I think that with the obvious discrimination against rural-dwellers in your post (and the assumption that I am one), people will decide for themselves who is "civilized".

Wait, why am I wasting my time on this? I usually don't respond to AC's. Have a good one.

Re:if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fe (2)

Lord Kano (13027) | about 7 months ago | (#46651963)

If you're so civilized, why are you having such problems with people shooting each other?

LK

Re:if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fe (1)

turgid (580780) | about 7 months ago | (#46653135)

As long as the uncivillised people only shoot other uncivillised people, and leave us civillised people in peace, I see no problem. Same goes for suicide bombers.

Re:if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fe (1)

ogar572 (531320) | about 7 months ago | (#46653069)

So all your gun-ho, "an armed society is a polite society" bullshit is proven incorrect.

Can you give us some proof that its incorrect? Also, define civilized for me.

Re:Newtown (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 7 months ago | (#46653525)

> there are far more deadlier things that can be outlawed (cars, alcohol, high-fructose corn syrup, etc).

That is a great list. Mod parent up!

Another example:

A person can legally kill themselves by
  a) smoking themselves to death, or
  b) drinking themselves to death

but yet suicide is illegal. Only the time frame is the difference; yet the former are legal while the latter is not??

Addictive drugs such as Alcohol, Nicotine, and Sugar are legal yet a harmless plant (Cannabis) is still illegal. And you in the back who asked "Why is the Constitution written on Hemp paper if Cannabis is so 'bad' ?" hush! And don't remind anyone of that government propaganda "Hemp for Victory" https://www.youtube.com/result... [youtube.com]

You forget how stupid and hypocritical the general public is. :-/

Re:Newtown (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46654941)

It affects all of us because you are much more likely to be murdered, and with your own weapon, raising everyone's insurance costs and lowering your neighbors home values.

Re:Newtown (1)

vux984 (928602) | about 7 months ago | (#46655011)

Here's the issue I have with your question. It's framed such that "giving up the 2nd amendment = gun ban" and that's fallacy.

The 'trouble' with the 2nd amendment is that it's too strong, too absolute. It results in absolute permission, and one is not required to display any competence with guns, have any knowledge about guns, nor even observe common sense safety practices to have a gun. That's ridiculous.

A "better" 2nd amendment would be one which treats guns much like we treat cars in practice. Anyone can get one, but we keep track of them, require you to demonstrate some level of competence before you can drive one, and if you do something stupid with one like operate it drunk we might take it away, even if you didn't hit anyone with it.

There really should be no practical difference between guns and cars.

note I said, practical. The way we manage cars TODAY should be how we manage guns forever. The problem with simply legislating guns and cars the same is that there is no protection for the status quo with cars. Its entirely possible that in some future we'll not be allowed to own or drive cars, and that would be unacceptable to have that as a possible endgame for guns.

Re:Newtown (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | about 7 months ago | (#46657583)

Don't worry. After 6 PM, the people with jobs get home from work and start balancing things out.

LK

Re:Newtown (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46656183)

Join a "well-regulated militia" and enjoy your right to bear arms.

Re:Newton (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46651417)

How many children do you look forward to seeing shot to death?

Re:Newton (0)

stoploss (2842505) | about 7 months ago | (#46652843)

After the Newton School shooting you posted on Slashdot that you would be willing to give up your second amendment right to prevent something like that from happening again. What other rights would you be willing to give up?

Bruce Perens is on record [debian.org] as a notorious hoplophobe.

I lost a lot of the respect I had for him based on his public vitriol in the Newton post on Slashdot. I don't think it's respectable to pick and choose which human rights you support, and the individual right to keep and bear arms is fundamental to the universal right to self-defense.

At least ESR is consistent in supporting liberty in all its forms, in computing and in real life (much to Bruce's obvious chagrin, per the above link).

Re:Newton (1)

Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki (895364) | about 7 months ago | (#46653741)

The fundamental problem with the second amandment is that the only group I can actively imagine making use of it against the government is also the group I least want to see use it against the government.

Amateur Radio Hinternet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46650515)

Any thoughts on where this project may (or may not) go?

Will you stand up? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46650559)

The Real Bruce Perens [skrause.org]

Social issues (0)

Lord Kano (13027) | about 7 months ago | (#46650601)

Bruce,

Why do you act in such an abrasive and hostile manner when you discuss social issues about which you have opinions?

LK

What I Will. (1)

IMarvinTPA (104941) | about 7 months ago | (#46650641)

I'm sorry, I keep misreading these interview headlines. I do not think Bruce Parens knows what I will do, what I want, or what the contents of my will are.

So Bruce, do you happen to know what I will do, what I want, or what my will says?

The Linux Show (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46650695)

Well, I loved listening to the Linux Show back in the day with my 56k!

Can you bring it back? It was a real cool and funny show.

Thanks

How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source? (3, Insightful)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 7 months ago | (#46650719)

I'm an Graphics + UI + UX expert and use open source when I can (I also contribute to a minor open source emulator.)

1. What can we as a community do to address the weaknesses of Open Source?
That is, I see time and time again in open source:

* Functionality not on par with certain commercial apps,
* Bad UI,
* Poor documentation such as man files that don't have any freaking examples,
* A million and one clones that duplicate basic functionality

2. How do you respond to trolls who call open source "open sores" ?

3. How do we overcome the perceived image that "you get what you pay for" That is, some people think that if it is free it isn't worth anything, or it is only "worth" something if I must pay $$$ for it ?

4. Finally, is there an up-to-date list that shows all the various open source "equivalents" of commercial software?

Cheers

--
Only Cowards Censor

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

Tiger4 (840741) | about 7 months ago | (#46650957)

More to the point, how do you reply to the criticism and practice that Open Source is worthless because there is no company to back it? I run into this all the time. First, no one stop shop to get tech support from if we have trouble.
Second, No company to go after for liability
And Third, no company to maintain regular bugfixes and general currency and freshness.

We don't have a policy against Open Source, we just have a standard the vast majority of (perfectly adequate) software can never meet

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

jez9999 (618189) | about 7 months ago | (#46651035)

I'm an Graphics + UI + UX expert

I have always found self-professed "UX experts" to be people who completely ignore what large numbers of users want and change GUIs for the sake of being trendy. Tell me, what do you think of Firefox's drastic UI changes since Firefox 3?

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46651249)

Weren't you supposed to mention beta somewhere in there?

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 7 months ago | (#46653065)

> self-professed "UX experts"

Self-Professed?? My smegging JOB TITLE says "Senior User Experience Developer"
I work for a Fortune 50 company. Yes, 50.
These days I do mostly WebGL and Javascript work.

My boss _starts_ with 60 FPS for UI. As someone who can tell the difference between 120 Hz, 60 Hz, and 30 Hz, I appreciate people who understand the technical and psychological issues in UI and name & shame those that don't have a clue about good UI design. Now if only the rest of the people in the company would understand the _fundamentals_ of UI. *sigh*

I've shipped games on DS, PS2, PS3, PC, Wii (implemented a subset of OpenGL 1.1 on it.) I've done UI work with Localization; I've designed fonts (a readable 3x4 px font and a custom 7x8 programming font); I've designed UI for OCR years ago _along_ with writing an OCR engine (from scratch). Recognition was +95% on handwriting -- but we cheated like crazy.

The _secret_ to understanding good UI is 2 things:

* Signal/Noise
* Whitespace (which is an _extension_ of S/N)

And _your_ credentials and experience are what again??

> and change GUIs for the sake of being trendy.

You got the wrong guy there buddy. You should be careful with stereotypes; they are not always correct.

> Tell me, what do you think of Firefox's drastic UI changes since Firefox 3?

If I may digress slightly. Modern UI/UX design is HORRIBLE. They are chasing the FAD of minimalism, aka anti-skeuomorphism. I _refuse_ to upgrade my iPhone5 from iOS6 to 7 because Apple no longer understands "Contrast" in icon design.

Likewise, Microsoft doesn't have a smeggin clue about good UI -- putting the Menu bar in ALL CAPS for Developer Studio 2012 was idiotic! Getting red of the underline when you pressed Alt was another stupid idea.

I can understand web browsers getting rid of the menu bar to reclaim vertical space, but user want consistency. There is a reason WIMP (Windows, Icons, Mouse, Pointer) have persisted for years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W... [wikipedia.org]

Turning menu bars off is OK --if--
  a) NOT the default mode, and
  b) users have a CHOICE to turn it on/off

No OS does a good job of managing the title bar space. They all waste it.

I've used FF since the pre 1.x days. It jumped the shark a while ago. (Version 27 _still_ leaks memory).

IRONICALLY I've switched to Chrome because of 3 things:

* Tools, Task Manager -- per tab memory, cpu, FPS usage!
* Chrome runs every tab in its own process
* Tabs Outliner
* Compact title bar.

In my day job I use Chrome, Firefox, and Safari for development.

Was there a _specific_ question about FF you had in mind?

I use Windows, OSX, and Linux. I tend to prefer OSX because it gives me the best of UI worlds -- a single menu bar across multiple monitors; although OSX has it share of stupid UI designs too. :-/

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 7 months ago | (#46653803)

> because of 3 things:

Programmer Irony: Fence-Post Bug. Should be 4 things. ;-)

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

jez9999 (618189) | about 7 months ago | (#46653935)

Yeah, your rather hostile attitude isn't doing much to change my opinion of people who generally like to call themselves "UX experts". I'm a programmer, but I wouldn't have the gall to call myself an "expert developer".

Anyway, my specific question about FF is, why do UX "experts" think that it's OK to run roughshod over those of us who prefer a fuller browser chrome (even if we are a minority) and want tabs-on-bottom? Why is it OK for UX people to just force their mockups down everyone's throat? Because that seems to be exactly the attitude of the Firefox UX people, and the reason I switched to SeaMonkey and created a Firefox 3-like theme for it a while ago.

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (0)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 7 months ago | (#46654839)

I'm an expert because I have 20+ years of graphics programming & design. I not only know what TO DO, but also what NOT to do (which is JUST as important.)

There is one answer to all your questions:

Most UX people don't know what the fuck they are doing!!!

They failed the 0th lesson:

  * Form MUST FOLLOW Function

Sadly they are delusional and want "bling" at the expense of function. They want all sex appeal and forget that the best UI is one that gets out of your way!

IMHO Good UI _must_ _first_ give the perception of a smooth frame rate! Typically < 8 ms is ideal. No one gives a shit about "bling" if your frame rate is crap! Sadly UX people failed to learn the second lesson!

(In truth, both Form and Function are inter-twined.)

Thirdly, almost all UX designers mock everything up in Adobe Flash and don't have a freaking clue about understanding the holy Trinity of:

* Hardware
* Software
* User Experience of 60 FPS / Hz.

If you are extremely lucky they will understand 9-slice and a texture atlas. IF you are lucky.

For example, the typical noob UX designer will give programmers a background of 1280x720 px. On lower end hardware the GPU only supports power-of-2 textures, which means it is rounded up to 2048x1024 (2 MB which wastes 1 MB of VRAM) . For a static background most customers don't give a rats ass if the texture was 1024x1024 and scaled up!

The general UX stupidity and ignorance of failing to understand fundamentals such as frame rate budget (60 FPS), memory budget, S/N, Contrast explains the current fuckups in modern UI design.

Apple UI/UX designers are some of the worst. 2 Steps forward, and 1.5 steps backwards.

I want to smack the designers who put a close-app and minimize/maximize button next to each other.

How many UI / UX people understand Fitt's Law? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F... [wikipedia.org]

Good UI is about giving user's OPTIONS and CUSTOMIZATION. Some people work better with the menu/dock on the top, some on the bottom, some on the side. The typical UX designer doesn't understand people THINK and VISUALLY process UI different. They are married to the idea that a "one size fits all."

Most UI's are a total joke. It took me ~10 years to finally understand good UI. Signal/Noise. I don't see any UI/UX people talking about that. (There may be, but no aware of any.)

Does this help answer your question?

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

OneAhead (1495535) | about 7 months ago | (#46655485)

The layout and shouty style of your last 2 posts (not to mention the rambling dump of superfluous information) ain't giving me a very good user experience. If this is a display of your professional skills, then I hope I'll never come across a man page written by you. Style aside, flooding people with random opinions is not the best way to convince others of your expertise. Neither is over-the-top hyperbole (Adobe Flash, really???) I'm not necessarily disputing you are what you claim you are - you could easily be a bona fide UI expert who just happens to be very drunk - but what I can tell you is that you seriously need to rethink your strategy to impress people, because you seem to be going out of your way to discredit yourself.

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46656423)

I've used FF since the pre 1.x days. It jumped the shark a while ago. (Version 27 _still_ leaks memory).

memory fragmentation isn't a memory leak, but I wouldn't expect a self-professed dumbass to know that.

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | about 7 months ago | (#46651993)

If you're the same kind of "UI expert" that screwed up Google Maps on Android, I can safely say we don't need any of that crap and that OSS is doing fine. The problem is that you have a flawed metric for evaluating what's "right" and "wrong".

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 7 months ago | (#46653189)

You are blaming the wrong party.

I work in R&D.

Change for the sake of change is a *horrible* UI philosophy. See my other reply for more details:
http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org]

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about 7 months ago | (#46654007)

And your arrogance covers your ignorance magically because you're in a different department?

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 7 months ago | (#46654535)

We don't ship Android apps.

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

jez9999 (618189) | about 7 months ago | (#46656169)

Amen to that. I've had to install the old Maps to get the old Navigate back again. Combining Navigate into the Maps interface was a HORRIBLE decision. If Google had a fucking clue about UI design they'd reverse the decision and separate them out again. It's 2 separate things god damnit!!

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46652049)

1. What can we as a community do to address the weaknesses of Open Source? ...
* A million and one clones that duplicate basic functionality

Simply await the time of the Gathering, when the five thousand e-mail clients included with your favorite distribution will battle to the last.

In the end, there can be only one.

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46652153)

'How do you respond to trolls who call open source "open sores"'

I tell them to see their dermatologist immediately

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about 7 months ago | (#46653321)

I'm an Graphics + UI + UX expert and use open source when I can (I also contribute to a minor open source emulator.)

1. What can we as a community do to address the weaknesses of Open Source?

The fact that you're asking that question tells everyone you are not a ui expert

If you were, you'd know exactly what YOU could do to help.

Maybe ... consider fixing the shitty UI options?

Re:How do we address the weaknesses of Open Source (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 7 months ago | (#46653643)

> The fact that you're asking that question

Only a fool pretends to know. The wise man isn't afraid to ask to find out why.

Or in the famous words of Neil Peart:

"What is a master but a master student?"

. /sarcams I guess you were born knowing ALL the answers. Sorry that I wasn't.

State of the Union address / 16 this year (3, Interesting)

Martin S. (98249) | about 7 months ago | (#46650767)

The OSI is 16 this year and in many ways has experienced a difficult childhood but has grown stronger as a result.

What challenges do you forsee out child for the future?

Automation Technology Displacing Tomorrows Worker (2)

SethJohnson (112166) | about 7 months ago | (#46651061)

I'd like to know your perspective on the future need for programmers while automation technology continues to displace workers in many industries.

Obamacare (2)

MouseTheLuckyDog (2752443) | about 7 months ago | (#46651099)

Should the software used for Obamacare be open source. I don't just mean the website, but also things like the software controlling pharmaceuticals, X-raya, MRI, maintaining health records etc. ?

My question is for Slashdot (1, Insightful)

BitZtream (692029) | about 7 months ago | (#46651141)

Did Bruce ACTUALLY agree to this, or is this another one of your retarded 'ask blah blah blah whatever you want' that just vanishes into nothing because the person in question never agreed to any such thing?

Do you feel that you can continue to act like morons and continue to have any visitors at all?

Being that timothy seems to have the highest IQ of the group, how does it feel to work with a group of 5 or 6 people that have a combined IQ of less than 100?

Re:My question is for Slashdot (1)

HaZardman27 (1521119) | about 7 months ago | (#46651271)

This. It seems like every couple of weeks one of these gets posted, yet I haven't seen an actual response in ages.

Re:My question is for Slashdot (1)

Zontar The Mindless (9002) | about 7 months ago | (#46651499)

You can type that here without trouble, yet you cannot type an email to Bruce and ask him yourself?

Re:My question is for Slashdot (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about 7 months ago | (#46654025)

I have no interest in bothering someone who's got plenty of things to do in their lives already.

Re:My question is for Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46652355)

The problem is a third of the questions boil down to "Why are you a douchebag?" which pisses off the guy/girl getting asked the questions. So in turn they don't answer any.

Re:My question is for Slashdot (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about 7 months ago | (#46654059)

They aren't smart enough to answer the questions in the first place, they're rhetorical.

Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46657745)

Being that timothy seems to have the highest IQ of the group, how does it feel to work with a group of 5 or 6 people that have a combined IQ of less than 100?

I'm trying to put together a spreadsheet flattering to Timothy while satisfying both of your conditions.

a bothersome thing (1)

kqc7011 (525426) | about 7 months ago | (#46651215)

Is anyone working on a auto play blocker?

Tips (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46651219)

Thanks for all your work for the world of computing. What's your Bitcoin address? I'd like to send you a few dollars worth.

Have you and Lee patched up yet? (2)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about 7 months ago | (#46651231)

Have you patched things up with Lee yet or are you still having a falling-out? Fans are eagerly to see another collaboration, perhaps a new steak sauce or rub.

Summary is a false premise (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46651331)

Bruce Perens is not only not important, but he is certainly not "one of the most important" advocates.

What about C4FM and D-STAR? (1)

EmagGeek (574360) | about 7 months ago | (#46651375)

What can you say about your activities geared towards eliminating the use of D-STAR, C4FM, and other proprietary digital codecs in Amateur Radio? It seems the scourge of these proprietary technologies continues unabated. Have you done any work to develop any open digital standards for Amateur Radio? If so, where does that work currently stand?

Credit for the OSS movement (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46651545)

Some years ago, around 2006, I attended a talk from Eric S. Raymond at a venue large enough to accommodate his massive ego and still leave room for attendees. He informed that he had essentially given HP their Open Source strategy. Your name was not mentioned once. I am curious what were your discussions like at HP during your time there, specifically in regards to the ideals of Free Software versus Open Source. My question specifically:

What legal and financial hurdles and impacts, if any, did HP (and other companies) face when deciding between Open Source and Free Software models? I.e., what proprietary assets/IP could not be completely "freed"? What were the savings/costs associated with the decisions?

Q1 for BP (1)

postbigbang (761081) | about 7 months ago | (#46652031)

Why has the ARRL and FCC stalled on non-closed models for hams? D-Star is a travesty; but is the deeper problem that digitized voice trunking induces tracking fears-- especially across spread spectrum?

Q2 for BP (1)

postbigbang (761081) | about 7 months ago | (#46652055)

With predictability now almost certainly in many encryption algorithms, how can we be sure that root certs at CAs aren't jeopardized or compromised by algorithmic weakness?

Q3 for BP (2)

postbigbang (761081) | about 7 months ago | (#46652077)

What are your five biggest fears for safety on the Internet today, and where do you believe responsible admins should put their efforts for those five?

Thanks.

Moderation (2)

symbolset (646467) | about 7 months ago | (#46652277)

Do you find your views on blended/mixed license models evolving over time? Is it time to lay down the pitchforks some of the time?

Open source HARDWARE (2)

unixisc (2429386) | about 7 months ago | (#46652431)

What are your views on Open source hardware? Is it as important as open source software, or less important, or not important at all?

technocrat.net (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46653503)

What spurred you to reopen technocrat.net recently? Was it related to the response to the Slashdot beta?

Gun Ownership (1)

Tenebrousedge (1226584) | about 7 months ago | (#46654521)

You are on record [archive.org] as being rather firmly against private ownership of firearms. Frankly, I thought this extremity of anti-gun zealotry was a Republican myth, a straw man used to rile the rabble. I understand that people in less civilized territories will on rare occasion use guns for murder and atrocity, I am not aware of this impulse being a general hazard of gun ownership.

I'm from Alaska. All the people that I know who have guns have only ever used them for hunting. I'm less sympathetic to those who can acquire an alternate hobby besides shooting, but there are yet many places where hunting is a means of subsistence. I've known many people to bow-hunt, but I suspect if your dinner depended on your marksmanship you might prefer the more effective instrument. Does your plan involve screwing hunters as well as the millions of other lawful citizens?

Originally we are a revolutionary state, and I believe the People yet preserve the right to revolution. Furthermore, Mao was right about the origins [wikipedia.org] of political power: violence is the defining characteristic of government. Do you believe that the 'tree of liberty' [monticello.org] is no longer hematophagic? Else, by what means are we intended to obtain and keep self-governance?

It's a Bruce 'n Eric thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46657545)

Eric Raymond, the other OSI guy, is rabidly pro-gun. Nobody could tell the two apart so maybe they got together and decided to publicly disagree about guns.

Cool It, Linus! (1)

Tenebrousedge (1226584) | about 7 months ago | (#46655007)

I ran across an article which is hilarious in hindsight, [theregister.co.uk] relating some of the drama about the use of the closed-source tool BitKeeper for managing the Linux kernel. [wikipedia.org] You told Linus to "cool it", and whether or not that worked, the result was the git source control management tool. This in turn has led to GitHub, and an increase in open-source projects, although it's hard to measure such things at the best of times. Do you feel like you were on the right side of that debate? Do you think git deserves the hype it gets, or do you think that mercurial might have done just as well in its place? Which source control tool do you use?

Intervews (1)

machine321 (458769) | about 7 months ago | (#46655263)

It's kind of funny: I don't think any of these interviews have any responses from their subjects. Ask away! Then forget.

Winning or losing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46655787)

For a short time, it seemed like the F/OSS movement had the momentum. But then the computing landscape changed, drastically, and it seems like lately F/OSS is losing relevance. Cloud computing and mobile devices may have F/OSS underpinnings, but the computing ecology has changed such that the old licenses seem rather quaint and unable to address the larger goal of promoting a culture of shared knowledge. The Affero GPL addresses some of these issues, but other licenses do not. Do you feel like your dreams are coming true, or do you feel like the ship is sinking?

Gay Marriage (1)

Prien715 (251944) | about 7 months ago | (#46655869)

Did you donate money for Prop 8 one way or the other? If so, when do you plan on announcing your resignation?

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